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-- Micah 6:8

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--Pope Benedict XVI, June 2004

Friday, February 16, 2007

Gone to the Mall


Tragic.

But what should we expect when not only the MSM, but even some conservatives and certain Catholic bloggers, denigrate the military, the Commander-in-Chief, and the mission? Ironically, when radical Islam wins, one of the first things to go will be the "decadent" malls.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

JOSEPH D'HIPPOLITO SAYS...

Tom, this is the fundamental problem we have in the U.S. We have become so materially wealthy that our own wealth and comfort have become snares for us. We want to languish in them so much that we will do nothing to protect the values and the system that made such wealth possible.

Of course, Catholic bloggers (Mark Shea, Rod Dreher, et al) are just as much afflicted with this tendency as non-Catholic anti-war bloggers (Pat Buchanan is an exception becaue Buchanan is too infatuated with his own ideological nonsense). After all, they live in the same society. Some of them (like Shea) merely hide behind a Catholic facade (which shows that the have a semblance of holiness but lack the fullness thereof, given his behavior).

faithmy said...

HEY!! Watch what we say about Pat. Show some respect.

Anonymous said...

JOSEPH D'HIPPOLITO SAYS...

faithmy, I have absolutely no respect who quotes jihadist propaganda as fact. Here's Buchanan from his Feb. 28, 2005 column in The American Conservative:

The 9/11 killers were over here because we are over there. We were not attacked because of who we are but because of what we do. It is not our principles they hate. It is our policies. U.S. intervention in the Middle East was the cause of the 9/11 terror.

That is the exact rationale the jihadists give for 9/11. Now, Buchanan might like to believe that because it serves his anti-Israel agenda. But to parrot jihadist propaganda is nothing but treasonous -- and, make no mistake, Buchanan is a traitor.

faithmy said...

Harsh. As for WHY they kill, isnt that a legit question? Couldnt it be possible that some of the islamos nuttery is cause by our Isreal policy? Does saying that make me a Nazi? Is saying that the jihadists might be being truthful when they say they hate us partly due to our stance on Isreal treason? REALLY? Man, you have lowered the bar.

Anonymous said...

JOSEPH D'HIPPOLITO SAYS...

faithmy, let me tackle each of your questions:

As for WHY they kill, isnt that a legit question?

Yes, of course it is.

Couldnt it be possible that some of the islamos nuttery is cause by our Isreal policy?

No. If the United States became the sworn enemy of Israel, let alone ignored Israel entirely, the "Islamos' nuttery" won't change. The "Islamos' nuttery" isn't fundamentally based on an anti-Israel attitude; it's based on a fundamental hatred of the West combined with the desire to re-establish world domination through a Caliphate that would treat Christians and Jews (at best) as second-class citizens -- and would murder everybody else who didn't convert to Islam.

Look up this history of Lebanon. Lebanon was one (and still is) one of Israel's enemies from the Jewish state's beginning; it participated in the first war against Israel in 1948. Lebanon also was a sophisticated society in which Christians and Muslims got along -- until 1974, when a civil war started by the Muslims ruined the country.

You see, the Muslims don't just want Israel destroyed. The Muslims want any nation in which Christians and Muslims get along in freedom and prosperity to be destroyed because such tolerance threatens their dreams of a Caliphate. Don't believe me? Just look at Saudi Arabia, Iran and Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Does saying that make me a Nazi?

No. It just makes you ignorant about the nature of jihadism (aka, the "Islamos' nuttery")

Is saying that the jihadists might be being truthful when they say they hate us partly due to our stance on Isreal treason? REALLY?

As such, no. However, it is treasonous to give credibility to the rhetoric from this country's sworn enemies. That's what Buchanan's doing, regardless of how those enemies feel about Israel.

That's not lowering the bar, faithmy. That's telling the truth.

faithmy said...

Just because Pat believes that some of what the lap dogs of mohammed say is true, doesnt mean he is a traitor. You could argue that he is WRONG, but accusing of treason because you disagree with him is too much. Cant civilized people agree that when we disagree we wont jump to the ugliest immediately? Maybe we could just assume that Pat loves his God and his mother and his country AND still just disagrees with you. Cant Christian men and women do this anymore? Are we so poisoned by the left that we now copy their tactics?

Anonymous said...

JOSEPH D'HIPPOLITO SAYS....

faithmy, how can you say, "just because Pat believes that some of what the lap dogs of mohammed say is true, doesnt mean he is a traitor"? These "lap dogs of mohammed" want to kill innocent people, including and especially Americans, in the service of their evil cause!! IOW, for all intents and purposes, Buchanan finds ordinary, innocent Americans expendable in the pursuit of his agenda. If that's not treason, then I don't know what is.

Moreover, lots of people disagree with the United States' policy in the Middle East, even with support for Israel. How many of them cite jihadist propaganda to make their points? Those who do either 1)actually believe that nonsense or 2) are so cynical that they will use any and every means at their disposal to promote their agendas. In either case, they should not be viewed as serious analysts of the situation in the Middle East.

faithmy said...

ok, you are right. Anyone who disagrees with you is a traitor and should be shot. Anyone who says
'they might mean what they say' when referring to terrorists is as bad as they are. Anyone who quotes them when discussing why they are driven to murder is obviously on their side and evil. OK. Now civilization is a bit shorter on Christian charity, but I didnt pretend that the islamo-nuts tell the truth about their motives.

Anonymous said...

JOSEPH D'HIPPOLITO SAYS...

faithmy, this is the entire column to which I'm referring:

http://www.amconmag.com/2005_02_28/buchanan.html

Nowhere does Buchanan say that the 9/11 hijackers and murderers claim they did what they did because of American foreign policy. Instead, he takes their words as an established fact, not as an opinion! Read it for yourself.

I don't call people treasonous because the disagree with me. I call them treasonous when the advance the misguided opinions of our enemies as self-evident fact.

Look, it's obvious that you admire Buchanan a great deal. But don't let that admiration blind you to the facts.

faithmy said...

I dont let admiration blind me, but I refuse to assult Christian charity with atacks that arent worthy of decent people.